Dersu Uzala

Skoro pa nova nagradna igra. Naprava se zova Predator a finish je "Pantera Tigris". Nazdravlje.

Za pocetak, milina.

Sta, ima neka novija? Nema bre do Henry Fonda-e. Masterpiece .

I to sto kazes...

Otkud sad da americki sladoled valja kad nista americko ne valja ?

Jel su 'Mucke' skoro isle kad svi bre napamet citirate kojekakve (ne)zgode ? Ja nisam gledao, ne pamtim.

Kojom metodom? Dedukcijom, superpozicijom, propopzicijom, impozicijom? Zzezam se, nebitno...Ne secam se da je uopste spominjao cenzuru iako je kao i svi verovatno imao neprijatnih iskustava sa istom, kako si i sam skapirao, Stalker ima preko 50% materijala koji ne postoji u prici (Roadside Picnic nije knjiga nego kratka prica) i sve je to dopisao Tarkovski. Jedan od brace originalnih autora je saradjivao sa njim, drugi ga je odjebao posle Tarkovskovog ludila. Rekoh, prva verzija filma, onog dana kad je krenulo snimanje, je bila bazirana na 13-oj verziji skripta. Posto je propao ceo film, zapoceto je nekih godinu dana kasnije, ako me secanje ne vara, snimanje druge verzije filma koji je sad bio baziran na nekoj pedes' devetoj verziji scenarija (karikiram, ali A.T. ga je non-stop menjao). Elem, film je tu, za uzivanje, koga zanima dubiozna analiza ne treba da slusa mene (a ni tebe) vec brate nabavite dnevnik gosn Tarkovskoga pa bistrite.

Friends ima histericnih momenata, u stvari je sjajno pisana serija prvih 4-5 godina. No, to je serija koja ide na 'prime time' TV pa je samim tim i napravljena za najsiri moguci krug publike. Ameri inace imaju sjajnih komedija poslednjih 30-tak godina, ali ne verujem da su ih mnogi van Amerike i gledali. Sem opet nekih prime time izuzetaka, kao Simpsons, Seinfeld, Married With Children, Will & Grace, Frasier, M.A.S.H., Murphy Brown, Cheers i tako to. Mozda Sex & The City iako je to prvo islo na kablu, vruca je tematika. Trenutno recimo idu sjajne serije tipa Entourage, Scrubs, 30 Rock, Curb Your Enthusiasm (remek delo), The Office (americki je jedno 10 puta bolji od britanskog) i tako dalje. Brdo jedno, za svaciji ukus. Naravno, Ameri prikazuju i sve poznatije britanske komedije, repriziraju ih bez problema. Medju mojim apsolutnim favoritima unazad 15-tak godina su : Dream On 3rd rock from the Sun Larry Sanders Show Action Na zalost retko ko je imao prilike da vidi makar i jednu epizodu ovih serija pa se ljudi tripuju da se ljudi u Americi smeju samo u 8 sati uvece. Da se razumemo, Mucke niko ne spori, i to je kultno remek delo kao i niz britanskih komedija iz 60-tih, 70-tih i ranih 80-tih. Posle toga su otisli do djavola sa humorom. 'Da Ministre' (prvi serijal) je isto histerican. Godinu dana pre nego su se pojavili Pythonovci sa Letecim Cirkusom (1969) desio se po meni nenadjebiv engleski komicni momenat u vidu Dave Allen Show-a. Ako se nekome ikada posreci da pogleda ikakav materijal od ovog lika, nazdravlje. Ja ne smem da grickam niti pijuckam dok ga gledam da se ne bih zadavio.

Pise ti gore sam autor da Zona ne predstavlja nista do zivota. Bitan je put do Zone, put kroz zivot i kako pojedinac izabira da se nosi sa spoljnim (materijalnim, egzistencijalnim) i unutrasnjim (duhovnim, intelektualnim) problemima. Al', nebitno. Svako u tom filmu vidi ono sto voli. Ili sto ne voli.

Niko ni ne tvrdi da je proamericki film. Niti je proruski, prosovjetski ili proevropski...Film je imao vise verzija na papiru (13. skript je snimljen kada je Stalker prvi put sniman), i u tom delu koji je spaljen, Stalker je bio pseudo los momak, kavgadzija, i drug-dealer (u jednoj od prvih verzija skripta, Stalker je bila zena)...posto je skoro ceo film snimljen, posle godinu dana na terenu, sve je propalo i film je snimljen ponovo koristeci opet bezbrojne izmene u scenariju. Jedna od tih je sada postala i aluzija na cinjenicu da radnja moze da se desi bilo gde pa tako i u Amerigi. Posto u to vreme Rusi nisu jos mogli da snimaju po Amerigi, skupili su sve moguce props Made in USA da docaraju iluziju iste. Nije to nikakva kritika americkog drustva niti bilo kakvog drustva, film nema veze sa fenomenom drustva nego sa fenomenom pojedinca. Stavise, glavni motiv Stalkera, kao filma, je ljubav. Nista manje, nista vise...Nikakva filozofija niti politisanje. "People have often asked me what the Zone is, and what it symbolizes, and have put forward wild conjectures on the subject. I’m reduced to a state of fury and despair by such questions. The Zone doesn’t symbolize anything, any more than anything else does in my films: the zone is a zone, it’s life, and as he makes his way across it a man may break down or he may come through. Whether he comes through or not depends on his own self-respect, and his capacity to distinguish between what matters and what is merely passing." "The arrival of Stalker’s wife in the café where they are resting confronts the Writer and the Scientist with a puzzling, to then incomprehensible, phenomenon. There before them is a woman who has been through untold miseries because of her husband, and has had a sick child by him; but she continues to love him with the same selfless, unthinking devotion as in her youth. Her love and her devotion are the final miracle which can be set against the unbelief, cynicism, moral vacuum poisoning the modern world, of which both the Writer and Scientist are victims." A.T.

Odavle: 1. 2.

Nisam ga gledao ne pamtim. Dvaes' godina. Bilo pre dve tri godine na TV kasno, ali ja zakuntirao vrlo brzo, priznajem. Morao bih da sve to ponovo odgledam ovih dana. Mada, secam se veceri kad sam ga prvi put gledao u zivotu, pre skoro 30 godina. Takve stvari se ne zaboravljaju. Inace u prvoj verziji filma vodic (stalker) je bio siledzija koji valja narkotike. U nastavku koji je tad bio planiran, silom bi vodio raju u Zonu.

Po meni je bas tu fora. Inace svi props su Made in USA, pocev od pistolja (mislim da bese Colt ili Smith & Wesson) preko vozila (Jeep-ovi) i raznih drugih detalja. To su naravno mnogi uhitili na premijeri pa pitali Tarkovskoga za zivota. Na sta je on okolisuci i vrdajuci indirektno potrvdio da je Zona negde na istoku Amerike, nastala posle prvog sovjetskog udara u WWIII. Prica je u stvari vrlo politicka koliko i spiritualna. Uzgred, film koji danas postoji je prakticno kompletan reshoot, preko 80% kazu je ponovno snimljeno jer je originalni film unisten u laboratoriji za vreme montaze! Onda su ga ponovo snimili mnogo brze i za smesne pare.

Nije ti zapalo za oko da su svi 'props' u filmu 'Made in USA'?

Antievropski? Wtf? Inace, ne znam koliko ste skapirali, radnja u Stalker-u se desava u USA. Svi su oni Ameri u filmu. Zona je u Americi.

Ispeki pa reki. Inace, imas tamo 'legendu' pa potrazi .

To su sve 'prastare' teorije. Postoje friske, tekuce teorije koje se bitno razlikuju od navedenog.

Kuran i Hadit su prva dva.

Dobro, bice par citata. Kazem, bitno je celu knjigu procitati da bi se shvatio kontekst. I ima kontradikcija, ima ih u svakoj svetoj knjizi.Ima i ljudi, o Mojsije, koji se ne pridrzavaju Kurana i Hadita. Sto, nema Hriscana koji se ne pridrzavaju Biblije? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the first place, we would like to stress that Muslims should have good relations with all people of every religion. At school, at work, in the neighborhood, et cetera, a Muslim should be kind and courteous to everyone. Islam teaches its adherents to interact with all people and cooperate for the good and betterment of the whole mankind. Islam encourages Muslims to cooperate with everyone regardless of his/her religion or creed in all projects that are virtuous or beneficial to humanity or other creatures of God. In this context, the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Al-Qaradawi states in his well-known book 'The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam': First of all, we would like to stress that Islam does not prohibit Muslims from being kind and generous to peoples of other religions, even if they are idolaters and polytheists. However, Islam looks upon the People of the Book, that is, Jews and Christians, with special regard, whether they reside in a Muslim society or outside it. The Qur'an never addresses the Jews and Christians without saying, "O People of the Book" or "O You who have been given the Book," indicating that they were originally people of a revealed religion. For this reason, there exists a relationship of mercy and spiritual kinship between them and the Muslims, all having in common the principles of the one true religion sent by Allah through His Prophets (peace and blessings are upon them all): He says, (He has ordained for (the Muslims) the same religion which He enjoined on Noah, and that which We have revealed to thee (Muhammad) and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: that you should establish the faith and make no division in it....) (Ash-Shura 42: 13) Muslims are required to believe in all the Books revealed by Allah and in all the Prophets sent by Him, otherwise they are not considered true believers. Allah says in the Qur'an: (Say: We (Muslims) believe in Allah and in what He has revealed to us, and in what He revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes (of Israel), and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to (all) the prophets by their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.) (Al-Baqarah 2: 136) Consequently, if the People of the Book read the Qur'an, they will find in it praise for their Books, Messengers, and Prophets. In having dialogue with the People of the Book, Muslims should avoid such approaches that may cause bitterness or arouse hostility; Allah says, (And do not dispute with the People of the Book except by (the way) which is best, unless it be with such of them as transgress, and say, 'We believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you, and our God and your God is one, and to Him do we submit.') (Al-`Ankabut 29: 46) We have already seen how Islam permits eating with the People of the Book, sharing the meat they slaughter, and marrying their women, marriage being a relationship of mutual love and mercy. Almighty Allah says: (...The food of those who were given the Scripture (before you) is permitted to you and your food is permitted to them. And (lawful to you in marriage are) chaste women from among the Believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you....) (Al-Ma'idah 5: 5) Non-Muslim Citizens of a Muslim State: The above injunctions include all People of the Book wherever they may be. However, those people who live under the protection of an Islamic government enjoy special privileges. They are referred to as "the Protected People" ( AhlAdh-Dhimmah or Dhimmis), meaning that Allah, His Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and the community of Muslims have made a covenant with them that they may live in safety and security under the Islamic government. In modern terminology, Dhimmis are "citizens" of the Muslim state. From the earliest period of Islam to the present day, Muslims are in unanimous agreement that Dhimmis enjoy the same rights and carry the same responsibilities as Muslims themselves, while being free to practice their own faiths. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) emphasized the duties of Muslims toward Dhimmis, threatening anyone who violates them with the wrath and punishment of Allah. The Prophet is reported to have said: "He who hurts a Dhimmi hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah." (Reported by At-Tabarani in Al-Awsat with good chain of narrators.) He also says, "Whoever hurts a Dhimmi, I (prorok Muhamed) am his adversary, and I shall be an adversary to him on the Day of Resurrection." (Reported by Al-Khatib with authentic chain of narrations.) "On the Day of Judgment I (prorok Muhamed) will dispute with anyone who oppresses a person from among the People of the Covenant, or infringes upon his right, or puts a responsibility on him which is beyond his strength, or takes something from him against his will." (Reported by Abu Dawud) The successors of the Prophet safeguarded these rights and sanctities of non-Muslim citizens, and the jurists of Islam, in spite of the variation of their opinions regarding many other matters, are unanimous in emphasizing these rights and sanctities. The Maliki jurist, Shahab Ad-Deen Al-Qarafi states: The covenant of protection imposes upon us certain obligations toward Ahl Adh-Dhimmah. They are our neighbors, under our shelter and protection upon the guarantee of Allah, His Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) and the religion of Islam. Whoever violates these obligations against anyone of them, by damaging his reputation, or by doing him some injury, has breached the Covenant of Allah, His Messenger, and his conduct run counters to the teachings of Islam. (Al-Furuq, by Al-Qarafi.) And the Zahiri jurist, Ibn Hazm, says: If a Dhimmi is threatened by an enemy, it is our obligation to fight the enemy with soldiers and weapons. With this, we will be honoring the Covenant of Allah and His Messenger. To hand him over to the enemy would mean to betrayal to the Covenant of Allah and His Messenger. (MaratibAl-Ijma', by Ibn Hazm) Concept of Amicable Dealings with Non-Muslims: Now the question arises: How can we show kindness, affection, and good treatment to non-Muslims since Allah the Almighty prohibits Muslims to take non-believers as patrons, allies, and supporters in such verses as the following: (O you who believe, do not take the Jews and Christians as friends; they are the friends (only) of each other. And whoever among you turns to them (for friendship) is certainly one of them; indeed, Allah does not guide the people who do wrong. Yet thou seest those in whose hearts is a disease racing toward them...) (Al-Ma'idah 5: 54-55) The answer to this is that these verses are not unconditional, to be applied to every Jew, Christian, or non-Muslim. Interpreting them in this manner contradicts the injunctions of the Qur'an which enjoin affection and kindness to the good and peace-loving peoples of every religion, as well as the verses which permit marriage to the women of the People of the Book, with all that Allah says concerning marriage- (…and He has put love and mercy between you…) (Ar-Rum 30: 21) —and the verse concerning the Christians: (...And thou wilt find those who say, 'Surely we are Christians.' to be nearest to them (the Muslims) in affection....) (Al-Ma'idah 5: 85) The verses that imply breaking ties with People of Book refer to those people who were hostile to Islam and waged war against Muslims. Accordingly, it is not permissible for Muslims to support or assist them—that is, to be their ally—nor to entrust them with secrets at the expense of Islam or Muslim community. This point is explained in other verses, in which Allah Almighty says: (They will spare nothing to ruin you; they yearn for what makes you suffer. Hatred has been expressed by their mouths, but what their hearts conceal is still greater. Thus have We made clear to you the revelations (or signs), if you possess understanding. Ah! You love them, but they do not love you....) (Aal `Imran 3: 118-119) This verse sheds light on the character of such people, who conceal great enmity and hatred against the Muslims in their hearts and whose tongues express some of the effects of such hostility. Almighty Allah also says: (Thou wilt not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day loving those who oppose Allah and His Messenger, even though they may be their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kin...) (Al-Mujadilah 58: 22) He Almighty also says: (O you who believe, do not take My enemy and your enemy as friends, offering them affection, even though they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth, driving out the Messenger and yourselves because you believe in Allah, your Lord...) (Al-Mumtahinah 60:1) This verse was revealed in connection with the pagans of Makkah, who declared war against Allah and His Messenger driving the Muslims out of their homes simply because they said, "Our Lord is Allah." With this type of people, friendship and alliance cannot be permitted. Yet in spite of this, the Qur'an did not dismiss the hope that one day there might be a reconciliation; it did not declare utter disappointment in them but encouraged the Muslims to kindle the hope of better understanding and improved relationships, for in the same surah Allah says: (It may be that Allah will bring about affection between you and those who are your enemies from among them. And Allah is All-Powerful, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.) (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 7) This Qur'anic statement gives the assurance that this bitter hostility and deep hatred is something that may pass way, as it is also stated in the hadith, "Hate your enemy mildly; he may become your friend one day." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi) The injunction against befriending enemies of Islam is even more emphatic when they have upper hand over Muslims, crushing hopes and generating fear in the minds of people. In such a situation, only hypocrites and those who are sick at hearts hasten to befriend them, giving them help today in order to benefit from them tomorrow. Almighty Allah describes this situation as follows: (Yet thou seest those in whose hearts is a disease racing toward them (the enemies of Islam), saying, 'We are afraid that a change of fortune may befall us.' But it may be that Allah will give (thee) the victory or some decision from Himself, and then they will become regretful for what they thought secretly within themselves.) (Al-Ma'idah 5: 52) Allah also says: (Give to the hypocrites the tidings that they will have a grievous punishment. Do those who take the unbelievers as friends instead of the Believers seek honor among them? For indeed all honor belongs to Allah alone.) (An-Nisa' 4: 138-139) In the light of the above-mentioned facts, it’s clear that there are certain rules and criteria that govern relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims, and this should be borne in mind when dealing with non-Muslims. Islam does not order Muslims to show hostility to the followers of other religions, merely for the reason that they happen to be non-Muslims. No. This is not the message of Islam. Only those who harbor hatred and contempt against Muslims are the ones addressed by the verses warning Muslims from taking them as allies. Other than those, Muslims are ordered to deal with all human beings, without discrimination as to race, religion or sex, with love and kindness, for they are all members of the same family of mankind. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Islam, the "People of the Book" (Arabic أهل الكتاب, Ahl al- Kitâ, also "Followers of the Holy Books", are non-Muslim peoples who, according to the Qur'an, received scriptures which were revealed to them by God before the time of Muhammad (especially Christians and Jews). In Islam, the Muslim scripture, the Qur'an, is taken to represent the completion of these scriptures, and to synthesize them as God's true, final, and eternal message to humanity. However, because the People of the Book recognize the God of Abraham as the one and only god, as the Muslims do, and they practice revealed faiths based on Divine ordinances, tolerance and autonomy is accorded to them in societies governed by sharia (Islamic divine law). The generally accepted interpretation is that the pre-Islamic revealed texts are the Tawrat, Zabur and the Injil. They are roughly equivalent to the Jewish Torah, the Book of Psalms, and the Four Christian Gospels, respectively. A dhimmi is a person who is protected under Islamic law by a pact contracted between non-Muslims and authorities from their Muslim government: this status was originally only made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Mandeans, Hindus and Buddhists. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Muslims are not allowed to force the Qur’an on Christians or others. This is clear in the Qur’an in words that mean: *{There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error…}* (Al-Baqarah 2:256) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AL-KAFIROON (THE DISBELIEVERS, ATHEISTS), tri razlicita izvora Total Verses: 6 Revealed At: MAKKA Maududi's introduction In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful. YUSUFALI: 109.001 Say : O ye that reject Faith! 109.002 I worship not that which ye worship, 109.003 Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 109.004 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, 109.005 Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 109.006 To you be your Way, and to me mine. PICKTHAL: 109.001 Say: O disbelievers! 109.002 I worship not that which ye worship; 109.003 Nor worship ye that which I worship. 109.004 And I shall not worship that which ye worship. 109.005 Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 109.006 Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. SHAKIR: 109.001 Say: O unbelievers! 109.002 I do not serve that which you serve, 109.003 Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve: 109.004 Nor am I going to serve that which you serve, 109.005 Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve: 109.006 You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Islam teaches us to try to live in peaceful coexistence with those of other faiths. Muslims are not to attack others unless they are attacked first. The Qur’an says what means: *{Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors.}* (Al-Baqarah 2:190) The Qur’an also reads what means: *{Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.}* (Al-Mumtahana 60:8) Muslims are ordered to invite others to Islam in this way stated in the Qur’an. The Qur’an reads what means: *{Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way. Lo! thy Lord is Best Aware of him who strayeth from His way, and He is Best Aware of those who go aright.}* (An-Nahl 16:125) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- * And do not dispute with the followers of the Book (Jevrejima i Hriscanima) except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit. [Qur'an 29:46] In other places the Qur'an says: * Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'rûf and forbid Al-Munkar ; and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are Al-Muttaqûn .(3:113-115) * And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. '(3:199)' * Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . [Qur'an 2:62] * Say (O Muhammad ): "O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God. [Qur'an 3:64] Mislim da je dosta za pocetak. Sad knjige u sake .

Iskustvo me poucilo da ne tupim, znaci nikakvo prepricavanje nego knjige u sake. Svete knjige. Ima recimo u Kuranu i puno, jako puno mesta gde velicaju Jevreje i Hriscane. Kao i Biblija, pomalo je (pomalo vise obzirom da je poslednja nastala u tom trijumviratu) kontradiktorna knjiga. Inace, velica mahom Jevreje i Hriscane. Onaj ko je procitao zna ko su 'People of The Book'.

O ? Blagodarim.

Ziv bio, da nam se ti obrezes .

P.S. Zarad preglednosti sam naknadno spicio 'horizontal stretch' na jednom paru monitora. Ruku na srce. Opera 9.51 hebe dadaiju, u vise aspekata. Em je rendering engine skoro pa ko Safari trojka, em je DOM model tu, ne vidim jos probleme, em je HTTP networking stack (znaci, HTTP GET/POST komunikacija) majka Mara. Cekamo IE8 Final Release pa da merimo. FF 3 performanse malo kaskaju za Operom 9.51. Operu je generalno uvek hebao DOM i HTML rendering engine. Sad radi tip-top. Ove aplikacije koja mi pisemo se debelo oslanjaju na mogucnosti brauzera da sve to ispljune, po mogucstvu u rekordnom roku. Bez greske. Znaci sve radnje brauzer mora da radi bez greske, super brzu komunikaciju, connection pooling, session state, DOM model, JavaScript support, superfast rendering. Sve ostalo nas ne zanima, iako kapiram da je to obicnim smrtnicima plus (tipa torrent podrska, tabovi i te dzidze bidze). Kako rekoh, jednom kad udjes na sajt koji je odradjen kako valja, sem bookmark opcije ne treba ti nista. Sve je u aplikaciji. Sve.

Au brate...nemoj tako...

Da ne bude da koristim IE iskljucivo, pa imam neka predubedjenja. U stvari , koristim bar po dve verzije svakog brauzera. Jebat ga, inzenjerska je tuga pregolema. Ovo je PrtScr sa mojih monitora na poslu. Ima ih 4 koji pice istovremeno.