Stormlord Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 A zasto bi morali da stvarali nesto novo?! Zar nisu dovoljno progresa napravili u ovom zanru proteklih 20god.?! To vam je kao da ocekujete Maiden-e da naprave jos jedan Powerslave ili Seventh Son album, jednostavno ne ide. Zato se opusite i uzivajte! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Flesh Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Tacno tako. Nazovite ovo kako ocete,ali elementi black-a i death-a na DT albumu nijesu jos bili. Neko to moze nazvati progresivnim elementima njihove muzike,neko degresivnim "copycat" elementima. Cinjenica je da rade nesto novo,ne u zanru vec u njihovoj diskografiji. Azal rece da bi bilo najbolje da su otisli u Falling Into Infinity vode opet. Meni licno je to medju 3 njihova najbolja albuma i ne bih imao nista protiv.Ali nemam potrebu da ih pljujem sto idu u potpuno drugom smjeru,dok god mi se svidja to sto rade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinigamY Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Nazovite ovo kako ocete,ali elementi black-a i death-a na DT albumu nijesu jos bili. Neko to moze nazvati progresivnim elementima njihove muzike,neko degresivnim "copycat" elementima Meni se svidjaju ti elementi black-a i death-a a looot Nekako mi je drugacije a sve sto je drugacije je zanimljivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borhes Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 eto ljubav prema Dreamu, raste opet ja u Mađarskoj par dana budem naravno oko koncerta, agencija preskupa i prekratka vidimo se tamo, amo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erotomaniac Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Ma, ok je to sve, ja mislim da je njima I&W i Awake-a i tih stvari preko glave posle toliko godina, i da im je mozda trenutno zanimljivije da rade ovako nesto... ali oseca se da je ovo sve isiljeno, npr. ne smeta mi realno njihova teznja da budu malo masniji i inspiracija u blacku cak pa i growl i svi drugi elementi, ali sve je to malo ne promisljeno, albumi se stancuju, napisu-snime za 2-3 meseca, oseca se da cak i ako imaju neku dobru ideju u osnovi, ona nije razradjena i dovedena do nekog viseg nivoa, stvari pocinju da se ponavljaju i postaju vrlo predvidljive... Ipak mislim da je za kreativni proces potrebno vise vremena i truda, pogotovu u njihovim godinama kada dolazi i realno do kreativnog zamora, ali ocigledno su usli u "masinu", sto bi se reklo, Roadrunner/ugovori/lova, ti fazoni... i sad nema nazad. Mada sta god snimali radili, ipak oni ne moraju vise da se dokazuju ko su i sta su, i sto Stormlord vec rece trebali bi da se "opustimo i uzivamo" pa na cert u Pestu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlord Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Evo naleteo sam ovo na Metal Hammer sajtu: Rich Wilson, author of the official Dream Theater biography, ‘Lifting Shadows’, has penned the Hammer track-by-track of their latest album, ‘Black Clouds And Silver Linings’. A Nightmare To Remember Opening with a creepy piano introduction before some dark and imposing chords, some truly blistering kick drums appear before a weighty riff takes control. A few minutes on, and the headlong pace breaks into a lighter guitar motif, before another guitar melody drifts in. LaBrie’s vocals sound controlled and as with the rest of the album, this is Dream Theater sounding just so much bigger than before. This song lasts a mesmerising sixteen minutes, but at no time does it sound contrived or laboured. With that amount of time to play with, the track has a flurry of time signature changes. John Petrucci is inspired and delivers a fret melting solo nine minutes in, directly followed by keyboard wizard Jordan Rudess cranking out some crazy riffs of his own, before the pair trade off licks and unisons. There are a few of the growling vocals that caused a certain amount of controversy on their last album Systematic Chaos, but they are fleeting and quickly disappear as more curveballs are thrown in. Some typically wacky Jordan Rudess melodies take the track in a new direction before a more explosive version of the original riff from all of ten minutes ago returns. For an opening album tracks, it’s an enthralling and exhausting musical journey. A Rite Of Passage How can you follow a song that’s sixteen minutes long? How about one that extends to eight and a half? There’s an eastern influence in the calm guitar opening which lasts for a matter of seconds before catchy riffs take over. Again there are a few growling vocals in there that might raise a few eyebrows. The chorus is a true arms-aloft anthem, which is no doubt why an edited five-minute version has been chosen as the album’s lead single. The production is also noticeably slick and James LaBrie hasn’t sounded this solid in years. Two thirds of the way in, a new ferocious riff grabs you by the shirt and throws you in another unanticipated direction. Petrucci delivers another killer solo in a flurry of tempo changes. He then passes the baton to Jordan Rudess who produces some hyperactive fingerwork of his own. This song encompasses everything that Dream Theater detractors loathe but everything that their fans will adore. Wither Wither is a break from all the intensity, with a five-minute ballad that’s harmonious and intensely hummable. Much like Vacant on the band’s Train Of Thought album it’s a welcome intermission. There’s even a string section accompanying the immediately infectious chorus and it’s likely to appeal to old-school DT fans. This leads into a lilting piano section before Petrucci provides an almost Brian May like triumphant, song-ending solo. The Shattered Fortress This is the final piece of the so-called AA saga, which has seen a musical and lyrical of linking of tracks spread over the last few albums. It will eventually be fixed to the end of Repentance to form a gargantuan concept album to be performed live. The track opens with its own distinctive riff before nodding at the musical motifs from the previous songs in the piece. There are some truly juddering riffs as well as a fleeting return of those growling vocals that might have some fans (who want Dream Theater to sound like Dream Theater and not Opeth) questioning the band’s motives. There’s a muscular reprise of the opening riff from The Root Of All Evil before another change of pace to an almost symphonic, film-score section. There are more melody changes and frenetic keyboard workouts before the track breaks down into a wonderfully clean guitar sound. It’s another exhilarating and unremitting twelve-minute ride. The Best Of Times This opens with a beautifully mellow piano motif, before being joined by a string section. The track then rapidly increases in tempo with a driving riff reminiscent of Rush’s Spirit Of Radio. The song is crammed with uplifting melodies, soaring guitars and keyboards and is arguably the most old-school Dream Theater track on the album. It’s also the album’s finest track that will have you straining to press the repeat button. Lyrically, it’s a touching and heartfelt tribute to Mike Portnoy’s father, Howard, who died at the end of last year. There’s a rousing finale with an extended Petrucci flurry of notes before returning to the tracks signature melody. Utterly bewitching. The Count Of Tuscany This is the monster – an epic track that extends over nineteen minutes. The opening section sounds like Yes with bite, before heavier riffs take over the song’s direction. It’s typically Dream Theater, with a vast array of time signature changes and intermingling melodies – and that’s just in the first three minutes. There are some bombastic heavy riffs that all blend seamlessly with countless melodies. In fact in that regard, it’s reminiscent of the similarly expansive A Change Of Seasons and is destined to become a Dream Theater classic. The latter few minutes are dominated by an almost Pink Floyd guitar elegance, with an acoustic guitar then building to a formidable – if mellow – finale to a compelling album. There will be plenty of areas of discussion about the merits of the album by the Dream Theater die-hards. But taken as a whole, this is Dream Theater’s finest and most balanced album in a decade. If Systematic Chaos helped them to partially lose the cult band tag, then Black Clouds & Silver Linings with surely take them to the next level. For more information about Rich’s Dream Theater biography, head to www.dreamtheaterbook.com Dream Theater play this year’s Download festival. Download will take place on June 12th - 14th at Donington and will feature sets from Faith No More, Slipknot, Def Leppard, Whitesnake, The Prodigy, Limp Bizkit, Motley Crue, Marilyn Manson, Korn, ZZ Top, Down, Killswitch Engage, Journey, Clutch and many, many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgressiveR Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Fala! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Flesh Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 :) Pratite temu,prokletnici! Bilo je prije pune dvije strane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Nije na odme da se pročita, za sve neverne Tome. Sve je to lepo, samo malo mi je dosadno da čitam raznorazne "advocacy" tekstove o albumu, koji su u fazonu "pripremiti fanove". Dajte album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgressiveR Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 E jel neko slušao "Images and Words 15th Anniversary Performance" ?? Upravo sam ga skinuo i uopšte nisam oduševljen zvukom, a posebno ne vokalom (ali na ovo smo se već i navikli) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgressiveR Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sad moram da se demantujem ... na prve dve pesme je zvučalo baš krš, ali su se popravili posle ... e čudan ti je taj prvi utisak ... ili ljudska moć adaptacije! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Upravo to... Taj prvi utisak ili može da te ukenja ili da stvarno bude takav da se održi do samog kraja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erotomaniac Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 E jel neko slušao "Images and Words 15th Anniversary Performance" ?? Upravo sam ga skinuo i uopšte nisam oduševljen zvukom, a posebno ne vokalom (ali na ovo smo se već i navikli) ... to moram da cujem, stavio da se skida... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwakeN Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Stavih i ja nadam se da ce biti ok...... Evo i link da netrazite. http://www.mediafire.com/?cy2mdh3z3y6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borhes Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 PROGRESSIVE NATION 2009 - EUROPEAN TOUR Dream Theater, Opeth, Bigelf & Unexpect Sat Oct 31, 2009 Ljubljana, Slovenia pa ko voli nek izvoli u Tivoli, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Uh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgressiveR Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Idem, naravno ... hehehe .. konačno Opeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Možda će biti nečeg organizovanog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBrave Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 bilo bi lepo, verovatno bih i ja isao ako bude organizovano.. Sta mislite koliko ce trebati kinte za ovo? Verovatno 100evra sve ukupno (karta prevoz viza) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Hand Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 ja se lomim izmedju Madjarske i Slovenije. al mislim da ce u madjarskoj DT duze sfirati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBrave Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 pa da ali ovde gledas i Opeth, kod mene nema razmisljanja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 bilo bi lepo, verovatno bih i ja isao ako bude organizovano.. Sta mislite koliko ce trebati kinte za ovo? Verovatno 100evra sve ukupno (karta prevoz viza) Hmm... Nisam siguran, ali mišljenja sam da ovo može preći 100eur, no videćemo. Najpre da vidim šta ću sa onim Kaliakra festom. ja se lomim izmedju Madjarske i Slovenije. al mislim da ce u madjarskoj DT duze sfirati Ja se ne lomim. Slovenija definitivno. E, sad, što se tiče dužine svirke, s obzirom da je Progressive Nation organizovan od strane samog benda, mislim da sa te strane imaju slobodu što se tiče dužine trajanja koncerta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgressiveR Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Oko putovanja za SLO je sledeće: - viza je 35e (osim ako nemaš rođaka u ravnoj liniji - brat. sestra, roditelj) - put - letos sam platio povratnu kartu na relaciji Ruma-Maribor 5400 dinara - karta - e to ne znam - trošak - i to ne znam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralliS Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dakle u startu stotinjak evra ide na vizu i put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:matija Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Ima vremena da se organizuje za ovo, ali cini mi se da nece moci ispod 150 evra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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