WoI Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 E da i mene produkcija do jaja nervira bwe. Znaci prethodni albumi su im imali mnogo bolju pordukciju Al Kai moram ti prinzati vala slusam ovaj novi VS non stop. Bio si upravu IMMORTAL I STAND!!! Quote
Angelystor Posted October 5, 2006 Report Posted October 5, 2006 Ma nije poenta sto sam ja u pravu, nego sto je to jednostavno Virgin Steele. David bre! Skoro sam chitao u nekom intervjuu da je svu muziku i tekstove za album on sam napisao, i da ima josh kile materijala za jos dva albuma, tako da do novog necemo morati mnogo da chekamo, verovatno krajem sledece godine! Quote
Apeiron Posted December 19, 2006 Report Posted December 19, 2006 OK fanovi, ajd mi molim vas objasnite zasto novi album ovog benda zvuci kao da je snimljen za max. 50eur? Nisam cuo goru produkciju kod nekog velikog benda nikad. Kakav crni bubanj, ono je najjeftinije ukucana ritam masina, ni semplovi nevaljaju, nista ne valja! Da ne govorim da gitare zvuce kao da dolaze iz druge prostorije preko puta studija (ako je album uopste u studiju i sniman, a ne kuci kod nekoga na kompu). Nisam fan benda, nikad nisam ni bio, ali ne mogu verovati da su sebi ovako nesto dozvolili. Quote
Angelystor Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Frank(Bubnjar): I am satisfied with my performance. I wish to clear up any confusion about the drumming on “Visions of Eden”. First of all, that is me playing on every song. There was no programmed drum parts used whatsoever!! I am very happy with my performance on “Visions..”. However, the drum sound is a different matter. This was the first time we used a digital drum kit and I’m not entirely satisfied with the outcome. Unfortunately, they sound so perfect that people are accusing me of not actually playing the parts. Some people think Dave programmed the drums on a computer. That is very distressful to me. I worked hard to get my endurance and speed up to the task of recording those parts. I can hear my own style of attack on the drums and, my particular way of phrasing things but at the same time I understand what some fans are saying. There is a machine like quality to due to the use of a digital drum kit instead of a real wooden one. I can’t wait to satisfy the doubters when in concert I’ll be ripping up those songs out on a real wooden drum kit. I’ve always prided myself on being an old school player who doesn’t rely on computer, triggers, samples, etc. to make my drumming exciting. “Visions..” was a break from that thinking. Recording digitally is cheaper and a quicker process. Sorry to disappoint but, money was an issue plus, you can’t be afraid to try new things. The problem is that triggers and digital technology enhance things so much that no one knows who is a good player and who is not anymore. With digital drums, plenty of hack drummers who have no style or technique sound monstrous in the studio. It’s really the producer and not the drummer you are listening too. It makes me sick when I see some of these guys in concert and if it wasn’t for all the triggers on their kit, they would sound like wimps. To my surprise, the fans don’t seem to know the difference. I don’t want to name names but you’d be surprised how many guys are out there, who are considered great drummers but are nothing without the digital technology. As a matter of fact I went to see a prominent speed metal band in Germany one night on a off day and when I got to the venue, the show was cancelled. I went back stage and found out that the drummer’s computer crashed and that he couldn’t play his parts without its aide. Meanwhile on their record the guy sounds like the second coming of Dave Lombardo. I looked at his bass drum pedals, which were rigged to barely move to impact the drumhead. What a fake! And to think, there are drummers all over the metal scene, (especially in Death Metal), just as pathetic as this guy whom the fans think are monster players. For me, digital technology just gets in the way of my expression, and takes away from my power and finesse. I’d rather have a real organic sound even if it isn’t “perfect”. I hope I never get lumped into the category with all the hack drummers I’ve eluded too. It will really break my heart after all the work I’ve done to develop myself as an artist. I still say that John Bonham had the greatest drum sound in Rock history. Jimmy Page used just two microphones to capture that man’s brilliance and turn the world on its head. It’s no wonder that producers today are beginning to go back in time to rip off all the drum sounds from the past, before there was any of this digital nonsense and things were real. I’m sorry to those of you who are disappointed with the sound of the drums on the new CD. However, before you doubt that I’m actually playing those parts, come out and see us on tour. When I get done ripping your heads off with my usual sound and attack, all you doubters will be silenced. eto ti odgovor sto se tice bubnjeva..a ti slusaj malo album bolje i uvideces koji je to masterpiece! Quote
Apeiron Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 eto ti odgovor sto se tice bubnjeva..a ti slusaj malo album bolje i uvideces koji je to masterpiece! Sta ima tu pazljivije da se slusa, kad je sam bubnjar morao izaci sa javnim objasnjenjem za uzasan zvuk bubnja? Naravno da ne moze sam reci: "jebote, koje sranje od zvuka, nemojte kupiti album". Virgin Steele je herojski heavy metal, i gde se u tu pricu uklapa digitalac bubanj, pa ne govorimo o domacim tezgarosima... Na albumu zaista ima dobrih momenata, ali jos da zvuci sve kako treba, i da se fucking gitare cuju, gde bi mu kraj bio. Ovako, jedva prosecna ocena od mene. Naravno, kome se ono svidja, samo napred... Quote
Invictus Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Na svoju veliku zalost, ovaj put se moram sloziti sa Apeironom. VS mi je jedan od omiljenih bendova, ali stvarno sta je ovo??? Definitivno mi je ovo najlosiji album poslije prvog. Odoh sad odvrnuti imenjaka u Sili & Slavi... Quote
RNA Posted December 20, 2006 Report Posted December 20, 2006 Ma nije poenta sto sam ja u pravu, nego sto je to jednostavno Virgin Steele. David bre! Skoro sam chitao u nekom intervjuu da je svu muziku i tekstove za album on sam napisao, i da ima josh kile materijala za jos dva albuma, tako da do novog necemo morati mnogo da chekamo, verovatno krajem sledece godine! Ako se ne varam, on je posle proslog albuma imao poprilicno materijala, ali takvi ljudi su uglavnom picajzle i nece nista da snimaju dok sve ne urade kako misle da treba. E, sad, ostaje samo pitanje pomenute produkcije... Quote
Angelystor Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Jebga..mozda se meni sluh izvezbao od silnih bootlega/demoa koje sam slusao pa mi ovaj zvuk albuma i ne smeta...razmazili vas Triviumi i ostala gamad sa svojim fensi zvukom Jbg, iskreno, ne razumem sta ne valja zvuku bubnja? dzitre se jbg cesto ne cuju na 'bumu..to ne kapiram zasto.. A ko je voleo prethodne VS albume...trebalo bi i ovo da mu se svidi.. Definitivno mi je ovo najlosiji album poslije prvog. Taj album je nesto daleko od loseg! Ni ja ga nisam voleo u stratu, ali sada ga gotivim dosta..CHILDREN OF THE STORM bre! Quote
Prisoner of Dreams Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 Jedan od omiljenih mi bendova. Solidan album, a produkciji ne fali nista. Ko ih dugo slusa, zna da im nije strano da ''utisaju'' gitare. Upozorio bih da dosta toga sto se cuje u pozadini uopste nije gitarski zid vec klavijature, odsvirane na njima svojstven nacin. A naravno, tesko je ponoviti Invictus. Takodje ne mislim da im je prvenac bio los! Quote
WoI Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 ma produkcija je jedino losa al album je super Quote
Yngwie Tatica Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 Visions Of Eden je redak primer istinske umetnosti u današnjoj muzici, koja je prepuna loših tekstova i nedostatka ideja, a s druge strane poseduje vrhunsku produkciju. Zapitajte se da li je bolje slušati mediokritet u dobrom pakovanju ili genijalnost u osrednjem ili lošem? VS, po meni, nikada nisu snimili loš album. Štaviše, svaki naredni je bio bolji od prethodnog. Ovaj album može samo da se voli ili ne voli, trećeg nema. Ko sebe smatra tr00 VS fanom ne može da se ne naježi od stvari poput Immortal I Stand, Adorned With The Rising Cobra, Angel Of Death, God Above God, Childslayer ili Visions Of Eden. Jednom rečju, Dave did it again!!! Quote
Angelystor Posted February 4, 2007 Report Posted February 4, 2007 Bravo care Majka bre od albuma! Jedva chekam novi..koji bese reche David da ce ove godine da urade. Quote
Yngwie Tatica Posted February 5, 2007 Report Posted February 5, 2007 Pa Dave reče da ima materijala za još 2-3 albuma, a znajući njega to neće biti reciklaža materijala ! Izgleda da se nakon Marriage-a smeši još jedna trilogija! P.S. Jel neko nabavio textove za novi album (ja imam kao i većina vas tekstove prve dve pesme)? Ja nikako ne mogu da ih nađem, a pretražio sam "ceo" internet!!! Quote
Angelystor Posted May 16, 2007 Report Posted May 16, 2007 akustichna setlista iz Italije 01. Black Mass Blues 02. Snakeskin Voodoo Man 03. Bonedust 04. Egyptian Intro - Wine Of Violence - Egyptian Outro 05. Don't Say Goodbye 06. Vow Of Honour-Defiance 07. Wings Of Vengeance 08. Child Of Desolation 09. God Of Our Sorrows / Chloe Dancer / Purple Rain 10. God Above God 11. We Are Eternal 12. Medley: * A Whisper Of Death Intro * When Dusk Fell * Lion In Winter Encore: 13. Medley: * Serpent Intro * Agamemnon's Last Hour * A Whisper Of Death * Great Sword Of Flame * Whisper Of Death Riff Reprise * Emalaith / The Burning Of Rome (Cry For Pompeii) * Perfect Mansions (Mountains Of The Sun) aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh..........sigh.... Quote
Yngwie Tatica Posted May 17, 2007 Report Posted May 17, 2007 Kako li zvuče "Defiance" i "Great Sword Of Flame" u akustičnim verzijama, živo me interesuje? Ali svaka im čast za set-listu. Da li da se nadamo da će svratiti i u Srbiju? Quote
Angelystor Posted May 17, 2007 Report Posted May 17, 2007 'Oce....ko da ih dovede? Ko da ih gleda..ti, Invictus i ja? Quote
Yngwie Tatica Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Eto, to bi bilo tr00 veče. Nas četvorica, 5 gajbi "Jelena", a sa bine se čuje "A Token Of My Hatred" ili "Emalaith". Stvarno, ne vidim razlog da na VS dođe manje ljudi nego na Evergrey? Quote
Angelystor Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Ahhh...Emalaith.. pa izivljavanje uz Invictus...pa totalno dranje grla na "Burning Of Rome"...kako bi to mogao dobar koncert da bude... Quote
Grobodan Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Ti si mlad,Angi,pa mozda ne znas da su oni trebali da dodju 98 ili 99 sa Riot,ali je otkazano bilo zbog situacije u zemlji... Quote
Angelystor Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Jel'?! Prvi put chujem za to...jebot pa to Invictus turneja...heh. Ma de, tad nisam ni znao sta je metal... Quote
Grobodan Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Ja tad nisam znao sta je Beograd ,imao sam 16 godinica,mlado ludo... Quote
Angelystor Posted May 18, 2007 Report Posted May 18, 2007 Haha...more ja propustih Savatage zbog neznanja, a da sam propustio i VS, gorko bih se kajao! Nema opravdanja... Quote
Yngwie Tatica Posted May 20, 2007 Report Posted May 20, 2007 Pored Riot-a i naravno Virgin Steele-a je trebalo da nastupe i Stigmata iz Austrije i Annathema iz Novog Sada. Par meseci pre tog najavljenog koncerta nabavio sam Invictus od Polzovića i usr'o sam se od sreće koliko je to bio dobar album! Sad probajte da zamislite moju tugu kada sam saznao da je koncert otkazan. DeFeis je izjavio u nekom intervjuu da su ih naše vlasti i organizatori nešto zajebavali, a kasnije sam čitao intervju sa Maier-om iz Stigmata-e u kome je rekao da su se momci iz VS-a uplašili situacije u Srbiji i da su otkazali svirku zbog lične bezbednosti. Još malo pa će desetogodišnjica te nesreće, a ja svoj omiljeni bend još ne videh uživo. Tuga pregolema! :cry: Quote
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