Turin Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 preslusao sam album pazljivo (hm...dovoljno pazljivo u svakom slucaju) i vreme je za NO BULLSHIT REVIEW za slucaj da ove stranice pohodi i neko koga zanima objektivan prikaz, a ne samo hvalospevi od onih koji ovaj bend iz nekog razloga obozavaju. Ja taj razlog nisam bas provalio, ali sam blizi ovim albumom. Ovo je jedini (a cuo sam tri, In Absense Dementia, ovaj i jos jedan cijeg se naziva kao i muzike ne secam) koji mi se zapravo svidja ako izuzmemo cinjenicu da su prve dve i poslednja pesma (Fear Of A Blank Planet, My Ashes, Sleep Together) jednostavno lose. dosadne. nemelodicne. pointless. Ostatak (Anesthetize, Sentimental i Way Out Of There) su vrlo prijatne za slusanje. Primecujem veliko kopiranje Pink Floyda koji to radi bolje i novije Katatonije koja to takodje radi bolje. Na najboljoj pesmi na albumu (ne, nakon pomnijeg slusanja utvrdio sam da je Anesthetize iako sjajna, ipak daleko od ove pesme po necemu sto cu da nazovem faktor "iskrenosti") - Way Out Of There, Porcupine Tree zapravo zvuci iskreno, melanholicno i intimno without sounding gay sto je za svaku pohvalu. Ova pesma je nesto sto bih mogao slusati neogranicen broj puta. Na momente se oseti na Novembre i mezimce im Klimt 1918 (koji isti efekat postizu sa kracim kompozicijama). Inace, na celom albumu je majstorski odradjena nenametljiva pratnja, ali bi vokal mogao da zvuci bolje jer IMHO se na momente razilazi sa muzikom (ako uporedimo sa recimo Jonasovim glasom koji je apsolutna osnova Katatonijinog zvuka na koji se Blackheim fantasticno nadovezuje). Ne znam da li je pevac bitan faktor u komponovanju ili bi ga se mogli otarasiti. Ceo album je protkan izvesnim bubble efektom - repetitivni eho efekat na gitari sa nekom modulacijom koja izaziva vizuelni odziv mehurica koji u dubokoj vodi hrle ka povrsini. E sad sto je ovo progressive? Nemam pojma. Ovo bi ja definisao kao Dark Rock, Melancholic Rock ili tako nesto. Quote
Buddha Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 pevac i gitarista su isti covek - mastermind Steven Wilson. inace, isti taj Wilson je ucio Mikaela Åkerfeldta da peva na Blackwater Park slusaj malo bolje tu Anesteziju albumch'na i po. Quote
Vintersorg Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 ubija, otkida anstezija...uuu za evroviziju Quote
Turin Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 pevac i gitarista su isti covek - mastermind Steven Wilson. inace, isti taj Wilson je ucio Mikaela Åkerfeldta da peva na Blackwater Park slusaj malo bolje tu Anesteziju albumch'na i po. uh, bre, bolji vokal ima Akerfeldt primetno....a i Blackwater Park moze da ocita lekciju bilo cemu od PT-a sto sam do sada cuo....doduse, ukusi su razliciti. Quote
Vitamin K Experience Posted May 7, 2007 Author Report Posted May 7, 2007 Svaka čast za muda da popljuješ ovako dobar bend Quote
SixStepsOnTheMoon Posted May 7, 2007 Report Posted May 7, 2007 E sad sto je ovo progressive? Nemam pojma. Ovo bi ja definisao kao Dark Rock, Melancholic Rock ili tako nesto. Pa ako ima velikog kopiranja Pink Floyd-a onda nece biti ovo gore navedeno,vec neki psyhodelic/progressive rock ,mada i sam Wilson je u gore vec pomenutom intervju rekao: I've kind of mellowed slightly about the word progressive. The problem > as I saw it is that for a very long time, progressive suggested a very > narrow definition of music. On your website, I see people struggling > to define what progressive is and to review albums under that premise > - if it's a good album but it's not necessarily likely to appeal to a > hardcore progressive fan, then should that get a lower rating? That's > crazy but I understand the dilemma. I think that's the problem of > trying to limit the scope on a music site. I love your site and check > it out all the time, but I think progressive has become a much broader > term than it was 5 years ago when we released In Absentia. Then I > think it would have been the kiss of death to have promoted it using > the word "progressive". I mean I personally couldn't care less, but > in order to survive in this industry you certainly have to be aware of > what kind of prejudices there are out there. > People in the mainstream media used to believe that progressive meant > it sounded like Genesis circa 1972, or King Crimson circa 1969, and > that clearly wasn't the case with PT music. However, I see over the > last 5 years there's a new kind of breed of bands that have really > changed the way people think about the term progressive. It's now used > frequently in the media in a genuinely positive sense. With The Mars > Volta, Tool, Opeth, The Flaming Lips, Sigur Ros, Isis, Mastodon, > Radiohead, Muse, Coheed and Cambria, suddenly the definition is much > broader than it was. So, I'm not so against it as I was. To be honest, > I don't like classifying music it at all. I don't like the idea of > Porcupine Tree as a generic band. I like to believe that we have > ambition, that we have scope, that we're an eclectic band. I don't > like the idea that you can sum all that up in one convenient tag. > It's music, you either like it or you don't, so who cares what we call > it? > I'm guessing that many of the original 70's bands did not consider > themselves progressive either. I don't believe Pink Floyd or Yes ever > called themselves progressive rock bands. I think they just did what > they did. They had their own sound, and created their own identity and > philosophy. I think that's the same with Porcupine Tree. While I'm not > averse to people describing us as such, I personally wouldn't call us > any kind of band, except a Porcupine Tree kind of band. > Quote
Turin Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Svaka čast za muda da popljuješ ovako dobar bend nisam popljuvao. album mi se svidja, slusacu ga jos mnogo puta (ima 3 bas dobre pesme) samo ne kapiram toliki hype. svi ga obozavaju, pisu hvalospeve (sto jeste problem muzickog novinarstva - ako je popularno, onda mora da valja, daj da ga nahvalimo!), a ja ne kapiram zasto. Pa ako ima velikog kopiranja Pink Floyd-a onda nece biti ovo gore navedeno,vec neki psyhodelic/progressive rock ,mada i sam Wilson je u gore vec pomenutom intervju rekao: > I'm guessing that many of the original 70's bands did not consider > themselves progressive either. I don't believe Pink Floyd or Yes ever > called themselves progressive rock bands. I think they just did what > they did. They had their own sound, and created their own identity and > philosophy. I think that's the same with Porcupine Tree. While I'm not > averse to people describing us as such, I personally wouldn't call us > any kind of band, except a Porcupine Tree kind of band. > pa pink floyd i nisu u to vreme zvali progressive rock, nego psychedelic/space rock , ali ovde ima prizvuka iz onih mirnijih/obicnijih/nonpsychedelic pesama Flojda. Ne znam, meni bas kod PT-a fali identitet. Uzmem da slusam i odmah mi se javlja Pink Floyd/Katatonia/Klimt 1918. poslusacu i starije albume opet, pa cu imati jasniju sliku. Quote
SixStepsOnTheMoon Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Ne znam,meni iskreno Katatonia nema nikakve weze s`wezom kad je u pitanju PT...sto se tice Pink Floyd-a to je zasigurno,jer je i Wilson odrastao na njihove ploche A da PT-ju po meni ne fali indentitet,sa odredjenim brojem albuma kao recimo In Absentia,The Sky Moves Sideways,Deadwing...su ga zaista napravili i sto je najbitnije prepoznatljivost je dosla kroz njihovu muziku i po meni sjajnih tekstova Stevena Wilson-a....a ako se misli na indentitet u uzem smilsu,znachi generisnje ovakvog benda u neki odredjeni zanr onda ne znam dje bi ih smjestio jer opet kao sto Wilson reche : To be honest,I don't like classifying music it at all. I don't like the idea of Porcupine Tree as a generic band.I like to believe that we have ambition, that we have scope, that we're an eclectic banD. Quote
ProgressiveR Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Od skoro sam počeo da slušam ovaj odlični bend. Pronašao sam stranicu gde se mogu skinuti SVA njihova izdanja. Poslužite se: http://umt.unifree.ru/?p=1080 Quote
Buddha Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Howling Wind, dozvoli da primetim da tebi ustvari smeta hype, a ne sam bend. za PT treba vremena.. a ti se nerviras sto je hype presisao to vreme koje ti treba da udjes u bend. Quote
Turin Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 otprilike bend je dobar, ali ne bas toliko dobar. e sad videcemo da li je vino ili sirce. Quote
raikhan Posted May 13, 2007 Report Posted May 13, 2007 a i Blackwater Park moze da ocita lekciju bilo cemu od PT-a sto sam do sada cuo....doduse, ukusi su razliciti. Hehe, Akerfeldt se prvi ne bi slozio sa tobom Inace, gledao sam ih u Londonu pre par nedelja i moram da kazem da su stvarno nevidjeni uzivo! Zvuk prosto savrsen, ogroman stage, video projekcije (nije da sam preveliki fan Lasse Holle-ovog rada, malo je previse ocigledan za moj ukus, ali stvarno dobro ide uz PT muziku) i odlican izbor pesama... Takodje, Fear of The Blank Planet im je prvi hit album - zadnji put kad sam gledao bili su 31. na top40 najprodavanijih albuma u Britaniji, tu negde oko Nelly Furtado I za kraj, ne znam da li je neko pomenuo ranije ali Wilson ce producirati sledeci album Orphaned Land-a ... (on je sada prakticno Izraelac ) Can you say - Best Album Ever? Pozdrav! Quote
Tanya Posted May 13, 2007 Report Posted May 13, 2007 Inace, gledao sam ih u Londonu pre par nedelja i moram da kazem da su stvarno nevidjeni uzivo! Okači neke fotografije ako imaš pls Quote
raikhan Posted May 14, 2007 Report Posted May 14, 2007 Okači neke fotografije ako imaš pls Imamo nesto sa mobilnog (i fotografije i klipove, cak nisu loseg kvaliteta)... Videcu da ih iskopam pa bacim na net ... Nazalost, prilicno sam siguran da je Arriving Somewhere... dvd ipak boljeg kvaliteta Quote
Vitamin K Experience Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Posted May 14, 2007 Nazalost, prilicno sam siguran da je Arriving Somewhere... dvd ipak boljeg kvaliteta Šteta :) Quote
SixStepsOnTheMoon Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 fear of a blank planet Zaista sjajno prikazuje mladu generaciju koja slijepo propada pored danasnje tehnologije,droge... Quote
niking Posted August 7, 2007 Report Posted August 7, 2007 Porcupine Tree release a new EP/mini-album in September called "Nil Recurring". It will feature 4 tracks (just under 30 minutes of music) that were written during the Fear of a Blank Planet sessions, including the title track featuring Robert Fripp on guitar, and "Cheating the Polygraph", which was premiered on the 2006 tour, but subsequently left off the Fear of a Blank Planet album. More news on availability of the EP soon. jej! Quote
DBrave Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 e nesto me muci vec duze vreme... Treca pesma sa novog albuma, Anesthetize, ima nekakvo sustanje u intervalu 2'54''-3'28''. E sad da li je to tako stvarno na albumu?? Skinuo sam nekoliko razlicitih ripova (320kbs, 192kbs, vrb, itd...) i na svima je isto, samo me zanima zasto se to nalazi na albumu i da li i vama smeta... Quote
SixStepsOnTheMoon Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) e nesto me muci vec duze vreme... Treca pesma sa novog albuma, Anesthetize, ima nekakvo sustanje u intervalu 2'54''-3'28''. E sad da li je to tako stvarno na albumu?? Skinuo sam nekoliko razlicitih ripova (320kbs, 192kbs, vrb, itd...) i na svima je isto, samo me zanima zasto se to nalazi na albumu i da li i vama smeta... Jeste stvarno je na albumu (barem je i kod meni tako ),meni je u početku smetaLo,ali sto sam je više puta preslušao,shvatio sam da je to vjerovatno neki pokušaj da se dočara neka depresivnost koja prati ovu pjesmu kroz text,a i ne znam na Anesthetize svoj guitar solo je prepušten sjajnom Alex Lifeson-u,pa se igrao malo i prije toga... Edited September 26, 2007 by SixStepsOnTheMoon Quote
Sinstrel Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 Porcupine Tree - Nil Recurring (EP) [2007] Pass: www.crom-diosesdelmetal.blogspot.com Nije lose ali vise volim kada roknu ceo album. Quote
Angelystor Posted December 9, 2007 Report Posted December 9, 2007 Ja ne postah ovde koliko vidim...pa ajde da gi nafalim ukratko. Elem..maestralan bend. Lichno vishe volem psihodelija radove i nije mi se bash svidela metalizacija koja je prisutna na zadnjih par albuma, ali nema je toliko, tako da i nije neshto shto odvraca mlogo paznje. Jedino "Signify" josh nisam slushao, ali ispravice se i to..ali i chuh neke pesme odatle na Coma-i. Anyway, dakle prva tri albuma - uzivancija za chula, sa naglaskom na prvi, "Jupiter Island" i "Radioactive Toy" su mi medju 3 fav PT pesme, a treca je "Piano Lessons". Nikad se necu zasititi tom pesmom. Sto se tiche "kasnijeg" perioda PTa, Stupid Dream uzima lovorike. Neverovatan album, i jedino su mu prishli, IMHO, sa FOABP, koji mi ulazi medj najbolja ovogodishnja izdanja.. Quote
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