Grobodan Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Odlican je Sodomizer, za njih sam saznao u Denial of God intervjuu, ostale cu overiti, hvala na preporukama. Shackles videh na Trench Hell stranici, super bend isto... Quote
Lunar Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 Ja mislim da uvidjam u chemu je razlika. Razlog zashto se vama svidja DT a meni ne je to zato sto smo na drukcijim bendovima gradili nash muzichki ukus, vi ste pocheli sa king diamond i mercyful fate ,a ja sa King crimsonom i Pink Floydom , ja sam se zaljubio u umetnishtvo u sviranju a vi u imidz itd. @Sadomator: Choveche ponashash se ko klinac(mozda i jesi sta ja znam), ali gde sam ja napisao da su gorgorothov Incipt i Ordo kultovi? Choveche si ti lud TI si pomenuo te bendove, ne JA. TI si kao adut pomenuo umnost i revolucionarnost ne JA. To je bila moja replika na tvoj odgovor Tako da moj post je bila replika na Sadomatorov post, koji je po mom misljenju nije tachan, ali kako vidim osim gundjanja i vi se slazete, jer niko nije rekao da nije tachno. Inache danas sam ceo dan proveo slusajuci OM, i ja neshvatma kako posle takvog nekog iskustva ja mogu da skocim i sa osmehom na licu slusham DT. Okej slusahte sta volite, ali meni se njihova muzika nikad nije dopadala. Quote
Grobodan Posted January 19, 2009 Report Posted January 19, 2009 gde si ti procitao da ja volim Kinga zbog imidza, srece ti? :) ja ga bas volim zbog celokupnog koncepta iznesenog kroz Metal zvuk koji je cist kao suza. Znas da ja volim Opeth, P.Tree i sl ali ne mogu mi to biti naj METAL bendovi, kad je metal deo njihovog zvuka. Mislim da je Darkthrone mnogo, mnogo dublji od "2 rifa i kanta produkcije", kako vi to predstavljate. Probaj da se udubis u T.Hunger, udji u melodiju, neka te nosi i dise, ili prosto prosetaj po sumi sa diskom u plejeru Ponekad je minimalizam efektniji od brda efekata i promena. Btw, ne kapiram te, sa cim se to mi slazemo kad ne gundjamo. Quote
Sadomator Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Ma pusti, ne vrijedi raspravljati. Nekom Satyricon, Gorgoroth, DSO, nekom Darkthrone, Bathory, Sarcofago. Meni su bitni riffovi, da osjetim da slusam METAL, a Fenriz i ekipa su uvijek bili neprikosnoveni u tome. Vasi velikani su odavno zalutali u onu legendardnu : previse crno, premalo METAL. Ne vrijedi raspravljati oko ukusa. Quote
oʞɾoƃ Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Dobro rečeno, mogu se i tako postaviti stvari. Ja sam svakako radije za crno nego za metal, ako mora već da se bira. Quote
morbid god Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Tezak izbor - black il metal. To je kao da biras lijeva il desna ruka. Desna je milija, al ne mozes bez lijeve. Quote
Grobodan Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Da se ne razume pogresno, volim ja i cenim DsO, Satyricon... ali at the end of the day, zna se uz sta se pocelo i sta je formiralo ljubav. Tako da, moj glas ide za METAL! Npr, evo malopre sam slusao mega kult SABBAT - Envenom. Za mene je ono BM, kakav Hellfire, kakav Age of nero, ono mi je mnogo mracnije. Quote
Josif Visarionovič Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Najmracnije ti je ona muzika koju ti tako shvatis.Meni je apsolutno svejedno da li ce to biti black ili thrash,metal je poceo uzasno da me iritira u celini.Ne muzika toliko koliko ljudi koji sebe nazivaju metalcima i svakom nesto smeta i svako sere svoja govna koja treba drugi da jedu. Quote
Grobodan Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Jel to nesto na moj racun? Pa naravno, rekao sam - za mene. Quote
Feniks . Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Najmracnije ti je ona muzika koju ti tako shvatis.Meni je apsolutno svejedno da li ce to biti black ili thrash,metal je poceo uzasno da me iritira u celini.Ne muzika toliko koliko ljudi koji sebe nazivaju metalcima i svakom nesto smeta i svako sere svoja govna koja treba drugi da jedu. Imas i ti pivo za ovo Quote
Svart Posted January 20, 2009 Report Posted January 20, 2009 Najmracnije ti je ona muzika koju ti tako shvatis.Meni je apsolutno svejedno da li ce to biti black ili thrash,metal je poceo uzasno da me iritira u celini.Ne muzika toliko koliko ljudi koji sebe nazivaju metalcima i svakom nesto smeta i svako sere svoja govna koja treba drugi da jedu. Bravo Quote
Lunar Posted January 21, 2009 Report Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) gde si ti procitao da ja volim Kinga zbog imidza, srece ti? :) ja ga bas volim zbog celokupnog koncepta iznesenog kroz Metal zvuk koji je cist kao suza. Ovo je vishe bilo peckanje. Naravno koncept oko Abigejl , Them/Conspiracy/The Eye su odlichni. (eto primer jedan daleko bolji koncept od TH), i muzichki su super ja jako cenim Mercyful Fate mnogo vishe od Diamantskih Kraljeva(ali i oni su zakon). Znas da ja volim Opeth, P.Tree i sl ali ne mogu mi to biti naj METAL bendovi, kad je metal deo njihovog zvuka. Mislim da je Darkthrone mnogo, mnogo dublji od "2 rifa i kanta produkcije", kako vi to predstavljate. Probaj da se udubis u T.Hunger, udji u melodiju, neka te nosi i dise, ili prosto prosetaj po sumi sa diskom u plejeru Ponekad je minimalizam efektniji od brda efekata i promena. Btw, ne kapiram te, sa cim se to mi slazemo kad ne gundjamo. Pa ovako znash ono pokusao sam jednom sa Blazeom ali neshto mi nije ishlo i odustao sam(ali to je bilo podavno i nije me uvatilo i zauvek sam batalio DT). Sta ja znam mozda u nekom buducem vremenu dam mu ponovo sansu ali ko zna. A inache po kojoj si se ti to shumi setao dok si slushao DT. XD Ono svi ste nehsto gundjali tipa nema pojma i slichno a niko nije rekao zapravo gde greshim u mom postu, mada ja josh uvek kazem da sve sto sam napisao kao replika na njegov post je tachna. Ma pusti, ne vrijedi raspravljati. Nekom Satyricon, Gorgoroth, DSO, nekom Darkthrone, Bathory, Sarcofago. Meni su bitni riffovi, da osjetim da slusam METAL, a Fenriz i ekipa su uvijek bili neprikosnoveni u tome. Vasi velikani su odavno zalutali u onu legendardnu : previse crno, premalo METAL. Ne vrijedi raspravljati oko ukusa. Oces da kazesh da DSO ima loshe rifove? Uglavnom kada smo vec tu bend koji je uspeo najbolje do sada u celom BMu da sklopi to crnilo i metal je definitivno Emperor. Mada i Immortal nekaska po tom pitanju, smrznesh se dok ih slushash. Da se ne razume pogresno, volim ja i cenim DsO, Satyricon... ali at the end of the day, zna se uz sta se pocelo i sta je formiralo ljubav. Tako da, moj glas ide za METAL! Npr, evo malopre sam slusao mega kult SABBAT - Envenom. Za mene je ono BM, kakav Hellfire, kakav Age of nero, ono mi je mnogo mracnije. SABBAT kult! Najmracnije ti je ona muzika koju ti tako shvatis.Meni je apsolutno svejedno da li ce to biti black ili thrash,metal je poceo uzasno da me iritira u celini.Ne muzika toliko koliko ljudi koji sebe nazivaju metalcima i svakom nesto smeta i svako sere svoja govna koja treba drugi da jedu. Pa metal je josh blag kolko hejta postoji u Hip-Hopu npr. Tamo u Americi se jednostavno zbog tih podela mrze istochna i zapadna skola, a nije samo zajebavanje ko sto se tiche metala. Volish 50-ija mrzish Kayne Westa , volish Tupaca mrzish Murder inc. itd. , nego t isi se malo zasitio metala pa ti se chini sve to kao veliki problem, idi slusaj neshto drugo i posle mesec dana prizeljkivaces ponoov metal. Ali Josife to ti je zivot, neces ti u nijednom pogledu u zivotu naici na nehsto u sta se svi 100% slazu, i uvek ce biti tu neko ko ce da ima svoje misljenje . Ali bolje da imamo neko svoje misljenje i da ga gradimo dok zivimo nego da budemo ovce za sisanje. Edited January 21, 2009 by Lunar Quote
Warner Posted January 21, 2009 Report Posted January 21, 2009 imam Under a Funeral Moon na originalu,trenutno ga slusam u dubini svoje mracne sobe. ugasio sam sva svetla u stanu ustvari i osecam se jako lepo,okolo tisina. kao da dobijam neku cudnu snagu neunistivu I am your disciple and therefore my own Your weapon I will be with the demons that possess me We'll ride the seven sins of death that takes me to katharsis Quote
Sadomator Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 @Lunar - uspjeli su i Floydi spojiti crnilo na najbolji moguci nacin u muzici, kao i x drugih bendova, kakve to ima veze s temom? Meni vise crnila imaju rani Sodom i Kreator nego Immortal i Emperor na kvadrat. Mozda sam ja previse dosadan s ovom pricom, ali meni Darkthrone u cijeloj diskografiji nema loseg tenutka, na svakom albumu se nalaze barem 2 pjesme koje bih mogao na repeatu slusati vjecnost. I ne znam jesi li ti spomenuo u prethodnim postovima nesto u kontekstu da je Darkthrone degradirao ? Vecina onih koji se kunu u stare Darkthrone albume, i uporno ignorisu fazu poslije 2000, zbog promjene zvuka, su retardi visoke klase. Svaka pjesma sa UAFM-a ima crust/heavy pristup i cak ocigledne dijelove koji stvaraju isti ugodjaj kao i zadnja tri albuma. Darkthrone je identican bend od UAFM-a pa do danasnjeg vremena, cilj je isti, pristup je drugaciji. Toliko o predrasudama . . . Quote
Grobodan Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Darkthrone. Just the name itself is enough to cause a tremble in true Metal fans’s hearts. Who doesn’t know everything about this reigning kings of Black Metal? They helped in establishing the name of darkest of metals back in the nineties, and after the 2005. they have decided that they gave everything they could to that genre and decided to move forward, or should I say, backward, into the core of true Metal sound. Starting with „The Cult is Alive“ opus, diabolical duo of Fenriz and Nocturno Culto started to incorporate influences of old school Metal, Punk, Doom, Crust, Thrash... or better said, the genres which were there when these musicians formed their personalities, and let their influences shine through in all its glory. The same story is present here. The interesting thing is that their musical change was judged by (mainly younger) fans and the moronic accusations that „Darkthrone sold out“, „punk has no place in Metal“ and similar idiocies (I cannot even begin to fathom how stupid these statements are) started flowing in Darkthrone’s directions. But these folks wouldn’t be themselves if they cared for such things and they have continued down the path they have chosen for themselves. But enough of things that are surrounding them nowadays, you can find everything about it in fantastic interview that I did with Fenriz (of course, it is not fantastic beacuse of me, but for the KILLER answers the man provided us with), let us go to „Dark Thrones and Black Flags“... This is Darkthrone’s 14th (!!!) studio release and, as stated above, they have continued in vein of previous two albums, meaning that they infused large doses of Punk / Crust, Heavy, Thrash and Doom in their basis of Black Metal, getting an exciting amalgamation of these genres. Trained ear of expirienced listener can and will notice influences from various cult bands, f.ex. check out the Hellhammer / Celtic Frost riffing in „Witch Ghetto“ or King Diamond (from Fate 80’s era) impersonations on „Hanging Out in Haiger“... The examples are numerous and I will stop here beacuse I don’t want to spoil the fun for you. Also, I can trace considerable larger amount of Black Metal than on „F.O.A.D“, just check out the blood freezing necro opening riff of „The Winds They Called The Dungeon Shaker“ (song title of the year)! One more thing that should be mentioned is that the songwriting duties are equally shared between Ted and Gylve, and that can be easily noticed when listening to an album. Fenriz concentrates on hymnic, speedy punk anthems with shouting singalong choruses and overall headbanging feeling (noticeable fact is also that the man is behind the microphone more and more as time goes by), just check out „Hiking Metal Punks“ or mentioned „Hanging Out in Haiger“ for the proof. On the other hand, Nocturno Culto seems not to be in good mood these days, as his work is on doomier and slower side, coloured with atmospheric little guitar fills and melodies, creating really dark songs filled with his unmatchable venomous rasp (check out beautiful „Norway in September“, f.ex.). Fenriz said a lot of things about the album in an interview, so I think that it is time to come to an end of this review... Truth be told, maybe this is not the perfect album music-wise but the uncompromising attitude and ovewhelming love for great Metal just bursts from the speakers every time that you listen to this fucker. Surely Darkthrone are not the only band with such standards, but they are the biggest, the monumental proof that money is not everything, that you can follow you heart no matter how big you are, that everyone who doesn’t agree with you can fuck off and die.This just makes for one more monumental release of the band who doesn’t even consider to slow down or to give up the mission of creating the most sincere music possible. So the mark of this album speaks how much I appreciate this band. Bow to the fucking kings – bow down to allmighty DARKTHRONE!!! 10 Quote
oʞɾoƃ Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ko da 10 Darkthrone-u nije zdrav u mozak Quote
Grobodan Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ko da 10 Darkthrone-u nije zdrav u mozak Normalno... Ja sam black metalac... Nikad komformizam... Go suck Satyrs corporate cock... Quote
Feniks . Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ko ne voli Darkthrone...kao sto rece album koji sad slusam - Fuck off and die Quote
Grobodan Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ko ne voli Darkthrone a sluša BM je u najmanju ruku kontradiktorna osoba Quote
Feniks . Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ko ne voli Darkthrone a sluša BM je u najmanju ruku kontradiktorna osoba U najmanju ruku...to je bas blago receno Ja bas i ne slusam black...ali obozavam Darkthrone...hocu reci da sam pametan jako Quote
Nemethor Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Upravo sam u slast preslusao A Blaze..., jebesh mi sve ako se ovo nekome ne svidja, a smatra sebe fanom ekstremnog metala... Quote
Маузер Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Sada opet poslusah Nordavind i konstatujem da nema nicega boljeg. Prosto ne moze. NAravno na Storm mislim. Fenrizov glas dolazi do izrazaja. Edited March 25, 2009 by Grishnackh Quote
Grobodan Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Upravo sam u slast preslusao A Blaze..., jebesh mi sve ako se ovo nekome ne svidja, a smatra sebe fanom ekstremnog metala... Čeka se Gojkova replika. Quote
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