bezlichni Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) isto kao i dusha, od dah. A soul od breath? Ne ide tako lingvistika. Mi smo izveli dusha od dah. Kazaem ti, psihologija, mentalitet i matafizicka shvatanja istocnih naroda su drugaciji od zapadnih. Mi se baziramo na rimsko-grckom shvatanju. Oni se baziraju na shvatanju koje je bilo u najmanju ruku worst enemy tog shvatanja. Ja ti prijateljski kazem ne trci sa zakljucima. I preterao sam kada sam rekao bullshiti i to, moje izvinjenje. ako je "duša" neograničenog trajanja u budizmu, da li je to onda "Self"? Ili nešto nisam dobro skontala. Da. Ne. Self ne postoji. Self je upravu sustina iluzije. Mi verujemo u to da smo mi nesto. Indetifikujemo se sa stvarima koje su promenljive - to je izvor patnje. Ne techemo nego se "kamenimo" Naprimer ti si danas Ajlin koja voli tu pesmu tu muziku izgleda tako i tako ima takav i takav stav. Posle 10 godina ti si isto Ajlin ali totalno volis sve drugo i imas drugacije stavove. To si ti a opet nisi ti? Dusha je neogranichenog trajanja jer je beskonachna i povezana sa svime. Postoji van prostora i vremena. Al tu sad vec mora da se ulazi u religijski misticizam i occultnije teme Vedskog ucenja. (na cemu se delimichno budizam zasniva) Pokushavam malo moje shvatanje budizma da prevedem na "danasnji" mentalitet. Ne zamerite. U principu, ako mene pitas, kod religija i duhovnih ucenja finese su nebitne, sem ako ih ne istrazujes. Bitne su sustine. Edited July 26, 2009 by Elitista u Povoju. 1
Zen Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 Moje da se odnosilo na termin, tj razliku izmedju self i soul. Ono o cemu ti pricas je ego+ID
bezlichni Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 (edited) Moje da se odnosilo na termin, tj razliku izmedju self i soul. Ono o cemu ti pricas je ego+ID Ne, nije ono o cemu ja pricham ego i id. Ajd da ne bude ja o kamen ti o klin. Self, opste na koje se misli u non-self pojmu u budizmu, i self koje je jung definisao nisu isti pojmovi. T.j pojmovi iste poente. Lingvisticki lapsusi. To jungovsko SELF je kontraverzna tema. Po meni to zahteva nov termin ne SELF. Lichno smatram da je Jung iskoristio termin SELF jer nije imao bolji da ga prikaze zapadnjacima. Da je rekao soul bio bi na meti religioznih fanatika. A dosta mu bilo sto je bio na meti Frojda. Ili ces da stanemo o toj temi posto ulazimo u domen metafizike? Edited July 26, 2009 by Elitista u Povoju.
Zen Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 Lingvisticki lapsusi. Da. Moj post je odgovor Ajlin za tvoju i rogozubovu raspravu oko selfa i soula. A sta si napisao u ovom poslednjem postu, sve stoji.
Kwlt Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 To ja i pokushavam da objasnim pometume na vise tema. Da svi jezici malo brkaju sve pojmove i da josh nije napravljen univerzalni pojmovnik reci gde svaka rec moze direktno da se prevede. Isto ko sto englez ne bi mogao da skapira rec Inat. ( konkretno prisutan dosta po forumu ) incosistent?contradictory?discrepancy?
bezlichni Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 incosistent?contradictory?discrepancy? Nije bash vezano za temu.Pa da ne duzimo, jasno je da te reci nemaju isti kontekst kao i inat, ali mogu da sluzhe kao zamena.
Ајлин Posted July 28, 2009 Report Posted July 28, 2009 Moram da priznam da ste me pošteno zbunili sa razgraničenjem SELF-a i SOUL-a probaću malo sama... Naprimer ti si danas Ajlin koja voli tu pesmu tu muziku izgleda tako i tako ima takav i takav stav. Posle 10 godina ti si isto Ajlin ali totalno volis sve drugo i imas drugacije stavove. To si ti a opet nisi ti? Pa ja ovo imam i bez umiranja in between !! incosistent?contradictory?discrepancy? Nekonzistentan (promenljiv, nestalan) Kontradiktoran (sam sa sobom u nesaglasju) Razlika, neslaganje Ništa od ovoga nije inat...
Face Of Melinda Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 da vozdignem temu... Lep clanak o Zenu i D.T.Suzukiju preko cijih knjiga sam i spoznala sta je zen http://www.brainpickings.org/2015/01/30/d-t-suzuki-essays-in-zen-buddhism/
bo88gdan Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Objasni mi kakve si odgovore pronasla u Zen Budizmu ? 1 1
Face Of Melinda Posted March 29, 2015 Report Posted March 29, 2015 Nisam rekla da sam pronasla odgovore, vec da sam se upoznala sa Zenom i spoznala sta je... a odgovori koji se ticu mene su do mene nisu do Zena
Face Of Melinda Posted June 13, 2015 Report Posted June 13, 2015 "When we feed and support our own happiness, we are nourishing our ability to love. That’s why to love means to learn the art of nourishing our happiness. Understanding someone’s suffering is the best gift you can give another person. Understanding is love’s other name. If you don’t understand, you can’t love." Fenomenalan clanak!
Face Of Melinda Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 “Don’t Read Books!” A 12th-Century Zen Poem Don’t read books! Don’t chant poems! When you read books your eyeballs wither away leaving the bare sockets. When you chant poems your heart leaks out slowly with each word. People say reading books is enjoyable. People say chanting poems is fun. But if your lips constantly make a sound like an insect chirping in autumn, you will only turn into a haggard old man. And even if you don’t turn into a haggard old man, it’s annoying for others to have to hear you. It’s so much better to close your eyes, sit in your study, lower the curtains, sweep the floor, burn incense. It’s beautiful to listen to the wind, listen to the rain, take a walk when you feel energetic, and when you’re tired go to sleep.
sale 3sm Larry Flynt Posted August 11, 2015 Report Posted August 11, 2015 This shit is so deep, Adele is rolling in it. 3
Face Of Melinda Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Sale realno zamislio si Adele kako peva pesmu, jer se pominje kisa http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlsBObg-1BQ Adele is so zenishly deep set fire to the rain man!
Face Of Melinda Posted September 23, 2015 Report Posted September 23, 2015 Muzika da isprati temu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGyfOh5-x8
bo88gdan Posted January 15, 2016 Report Posted January 15, 2016 http://www.blic.rs/zabava/vesti/odomacuje-se-stiven-sigal-gradi-budisticki-hram-u-srbiji/2wkdc1h 1 1
bo88gdan Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 kako na sve to gleda SPC? Vrv glancaju medalju i za Stivena
Face Of Melinda Posted January 23, 2016 Report Posted January 23, 2016 Aj nesto konkretno “It is in this kind of meaninglessness that we come to the profoundest meaning.” "Why do we love nonsense? Why do we love Lewis Carroll with his “‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe, all mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe…”? Why is it that all those old English songs are full of “Fal-de-riddle-eye-do” and “Hey-nonny-nonny” and all those babbling choruses? Why is it that when we get “hep” with jazz we just go “Boody-boody-boop-de-boo” and so on, and enjoy ourselves swinging with it? It is this participation in the essential glorious nonsense that is at the heart of the world, not necessarily going anywhere. It seems that only in moments of unusual insight and illumination that we get the point of this, and find that the true meaning of life is no meaning, that its purpose is no purpose, and that its sense is non-sense. Still, we want to use the word “significant.” Is this significant nonsense? Is this a kind of nonsense that is not just chaos, that is not just blathering balderdash, but rather has in it rhythm, fascinating complexity, and a kind of artistry? It is in this kind of meaninglessness that we come to the profoundest meaning."
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